Matt, Krimell,

>
> The slogan "value is perceived" is terribly important and under-developed
> (because typically still misunderstood with the shades of SOM, which is to
> say, you can't deploy the subjective/objective vocabulary until a
> significant
> re-interpretation of what either means),



I've been wondering if the strawman accusation issues Krimel has stems from
the failure to distinguish SOm from SOM.  That is, "Subject Object
manipulations" as opposed to "Subject Object Metaphysics"

And I would only add, in the interest of developing the idea "value
percieved" is that it invites comparison with "value conveyed".  Whereas we
know very well the perceiver, the conveyer remains mysterious.

One new thought  came to me this morning that DQ is much less a "thing" than
it is a function.

Excellent post, Matt.  Thanks for letting me butt in.

John



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