On 24 Sep 2009 at 17:19, Arlo Bensinger wrote: > [Platt] > Seems that you assume in your scenario that atoms and other inorganic > patterns (physical laws) are permanent. > > [Arlo] > Hardly. My guess is that there will come a "time" when the inorganic > level will no longer exist.
Deos that mean that there will come a time when nothing exists? > [Platt] > Seems in this scenario that there will always be patterns of one sort > or another. In fact, the more you give examples, the more it seems > everything doesn't change. > > [Arlo] > Hardly. The more examples I give, the more you search for linguistic > paradox in my words. Kudos! You'll find it!! Amazing!! Who'd'a thunk that!!! Self-contradictory, yes. Because your examples are incoherent. They don't make sense.. > [Platt] > Perhaps you can come up with some examples of "everything changes" in > which something permanent doesn't have to be acknowledged. > > [Arlo] > Nothing is permanent. Only various degrees of stability. So stability is permanent? > [Platt] > Further, perhaps you can explain how the score of Penn State's last > football game will change. . Wasn't in Penn State 31, Temple 6? > > [Arlo] > Scores have been changed in the past, upon review, it is not > unprecedented. Who am I to say that in a decade, a year, a century, a > review board won't examine footage and re-record the score as > something different? Moreover, the "score" as an social pattern will > cease to exist entirely one day. I mean, I am sure there are scores > from thousands of games in human history that are no longer known, > whose records have disappeared... In a thousand years, ten thousand?... Seems the drift to nonexistence is permanent. > Some times things do not change, perceptibly, over eons. Its a matter > of focus and zoom. The sun, when examined at the molecular level, is > a writhing ocean of flux. When examined as our inter-solar system > center, it appears to be "unchanging" over billions of years. The > Rockie Mountains are in a constant state of erosion, but they will (I > hope!) be around for a long time to come (I have my doubts about > people being around to enjoy them, though)... But, on the massive > scale of the universe, the "Rockies" exist only in the "blink of an > eye", even though to someone living there, they "seem" unchanging > over many, many years... Seems you assume time is permanent.. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
