Andre:
> I think that the thing to understand, to grasp here, is the 'M'
> swap...Q/M replacing S/O M. The 'M' representing the intellectual
> representation of Reality i.e Quality.
Bo:
Metaphysics in the MOQ sense is reality itself and infinitely grander
than the Aristotelian (intellectual) article which is the known "theory
ABOUT reality". In an enlarged sense any level - while "leading edge"
- were that epoch's "metaphysics". While life was the spearhead its
"jungle value" was the only reality there were. Then the "M" was taken
over by the social reality and for hundreds of thousands of years its
"common cause" value ruled unchallenged until intellect arrived on the
scene and its S/O took over the "M", and the rest is history.
Ron:
I think what we have to understand, is that Aristotles collection
of lecture notes entitled "first philosophy" is theory about meaning
and explaination. Through translations and the passing of centuries,
Aristotles "Physics" was translated and interpreted out of the philosphical
context of which it was written.
Making the "metaphysics" a misnomer. Objectivism is funded by assumptions
based on the grammatic axioms of scientific method. These assumptions are
supported by the axioms of mathematics.
What I'm realizing is that MoQ participates in the recovery of the meaning
of the works of the ancient Greek philosophers. Scientific method IS indeed
a "metaphysics" of Quality, better termed as a theory of meaning.
So all this talk of metaphysics as reality is a complex relationship of
assumptions,
ones that never really were the topic of the term it was given so I ask, does it
make sense to perpetuate the misconception? I really don't think it does.
You Bo, seem to think there is substantial meaning to be derived by retaining
the meaning of metaphysics as reality, and in a way, you have a point about
theory being the reality we live in, but this , in my opinion, must be packaged
with the understanding that we may not know any sort of "ultimate" universal,
foundational reality with any sort of absoluteness for indeed it is all relative
and humans by understanding it, measure it and that which is measured,
is limited. The power of meaning lies in the method of explaination and
explaination
via value relationships has greater explanitory power than explaination via
universal
principles of form.
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