Bo,

You said something of interest here which I want to use to amplify a
disagreement I have:



> . Then how can the MOQ - as intellect - employ SOM
> unless SOM becomes "social" which it clearly isn't.



SOM is born of social reasoning.  Before there can be a society, there must
be a relationship between self and other.  Taking this self/other dichotomy
as fundamental is SOM.  It's the most rudimentary metaphysical stance there
is.

Now, if this self/other dichotomy is taken as fundamental,  then everything
works according to mechanistic laws of interaction and the highest value is
unconsciously (as in science )or consciously (as in Randian individualism)
assigned to the self.  This perversion of morality sees nothing wrong with
fudging data to promote academic or professional careers, because after all,
when it comes down to it, it's all about the me.

The MoQ analyzes this value system and finds it wanting because the self is
meaningless without a social and environmental context to define and nurture
and thus it is the value of the all over the individual that brings us to
enlightenment.

Now if I could just convince Ham.

Just kidding.  I'll roll that rock to the top of the hill once or twice, but
when it always rolls back on me, I quit.

Lazy John

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