On Dec 5, 2009, at 7:16:20 PM, "John Carl" <[email protected]> wrote:
Deep Ecology insight, and MoQ, is that Nature is good. Nature is the source
of value. Nature is the whole cosmos including man. Evolution is a story
that includes man in a vast continuum, and to separate out the non-man parts
and assume that's nature is a big fallacy of SOM based environmentalism.

The best guy for deep studies of nature tho, is Masanobu Fukuoka. Lemme
just grab his book in front of me right now... and open it up... Here. This
looks good, under the heading How Should Nature Be Perceived. Sounds
promising.

Seeing Nature as Wholistic

"The central truth of natural farming is that nothing need be done to grow
crops. I have learned this because non-discriminating knowledge has enabled
me to confirm that nature is complete and crops more than capable of
growing by themselves. This is not the theoretical hypothesis of a scholar
in his study or the wishful thinking of an idler with an aversion to work;
it is based on a total, intuitive understanding of the truth about self and
nature wrested from the depths of doubt and skepticism in a deeply earnest
struggle over the meaning of life. This the source of my insistence that
nature not be analyzed."


sigh...
Hi John,
Thanks for your thoughts.  I could respond to a few of them, but I chose the 
one above.  If you change
the word "crops" with Quality, then I like it.  Quality grows itself.  We can 
watch and be amazed, no need
to worry about it.  No matter what we do, its all under control.  Think I'll go 
for a hike tomorrow.

Mark
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