Bodvar sayd:
If the human brain (I guess you mean the human mind) has created SOM (the mind/matter metaphysics) then it has created the MOQ as well, and we have a "human brain metaphysics". Oh shit you will not even understand the irony, forget it. I spoke to John about the MOQ requiring centuries for people beginning to understand ... see you in "2209. Ron: I think thats alittle too optimistic....how can you expect humans to evolve to such an advanced level as yourself in such a short time? genius must be soo lonely poor Bodvar > Cheers, > Mark > > On Dec 8, 2009, at 1:31:17 AM, [email protected] wrote: > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MD] CO2 and Climate. > Date: December 8, 2009 1:31:17 AM PST > To: [email protected] > Hello Mark > > 7 Dec. you wrote: > > > Oxygen goes in, CO2 comes out. It is an endless cycle. One > > could say that Quality is personified in humans as that > > electromotive force. > > Right, this is photosynthesis, the basic biological process where > plants uses sunlight to grow, but I don't mix Quality into this, it > merely organizes existence the known levelish way, it's intellect - > science - that speaks about the carbon dioxide and oxygen > interaction. But interesting it is!. > > > The waterfall of electrons going from the reduced to the oxidized. > > Oxygen is the final electron acceptor, making CO2 and water for the > > most part. That is certainly where we get our energy. It is > > impossible to stop that cycle, it was here before man. Matter gets > > full of electrons, we use those electrons (in a truly electronic > > way) to run. Each day we generate the current of an average > > refrigerator. This usage extends beyond our bodies to those things > > we use. It is just an extension of our being. > > Intellect (science) that has discovered all these inorganic > interactions and their use by living things is just remarkable. One > thing though, I spoke about the atmosphere's composition, do you know > if moisture - water vapor - is counted as part of it? I so IT must be > the one big climate factor and not the diminutive CO2 part. > > > If I were once again to invoke Quality, any building of levels > > requires such energy. The more the energy, the higher the Quality. > > Energy is limited to the inorganic level, when it comes to MOQ's > biological level the various organism's energy conversions are still > inorganic. Do you understand? In our bodie's exploiting food's energy > the exploitation part is biological value while the energy part is > (still) inorganic value. The inorganic level is the base of all > levels, yet the upper levels are not a continuation of its "energy". > Q-biology is that of having "cowed" the inorganic level into serving > its own purpose. Yours about everything being an energy evolution is > intellect's OBJECTIVE view, the highest yet subordinated the DQ/SQ > scheme.. > > > If one gets out of this need to save the human race, and takes the > > ride for what it was meant, then Quality is served. Any movement > > requires energy. Without it everything is stopped still. > > This is just saying what I said above, namely that all levels have > the inorganic level as their fundament. > > Bodvar > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > On Dec 7, 2009, at 12:51:10 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > From: [email protected] > > Subject: [MD] CO2 and Climate. > > Date: December 7, 2009 12:51:10 AM PST > > To: [email protected] > > Hi Arlo > > > > 3 Dec. you spoke:: > > > > > Arlo gave a valid, historical example of "environmentalism" acting > > > "coercively" to regulate and restrict business practices that led > > > to a river being so polluted it caught on fire. How is that > > > "demonizing"? Mark said there is no such thing as "reasonable" > > > environmentalism, I contend there is, and that this is but one > > > fine example. > > > > Right, I did not read your post attentively enough to catch the > > ironic points. > > > > > Arlo wonders if you read any of his posts, of just skim for areas > > > you think you can post some disagreement about? Because if you had > > > read his posts, you would see that Arlo holds little sympathy for > > > "doomsayers". But he also holds little sympathy for those who > > > blindly demonize any and all environmental coner siderations. > > > > Risking not to have understood your subtleties, it's the > > environmentalist unholy alliance with climatists which is my point. > > I don't deny that there may be some temperature fluctuation afoot - > > our november this far north has been rather mild - not since > > eighteen.. something the meterorologists say. Well, then it was > > just as warm before any man-made CO2! > > > > Another thing. The doomsayers makes it sound as if CO2 now fills > > the air and the gullible populace swallow it, but the fact is that > > the atmosphere composition is remarkable stable, the nitrogen part > > 78%, oxygen 21% and CO2 a feeble 0,030 plus some rarer gases. How > > can this insignificant part play such a huge role? No. there's > > something rotten here. > > > > > Arlo has said repeatedly, the truth is somewhere inbetween, but is > > > tired of the idiotic Holy War whose only goal is to blindly > > > advance an ideological view rather than discuss real concerns > > > (just as with "PC"). As for sounding like "Jehovah's Witnesses", > > > those who insist there is a global, one-world conspiracy afoot, > > > where "the academy, media, government and entertainment" are all > > > anti-liberty, freedom-hating, tyrannyists bent on enslaving the > > > world... well, they sound like "Jehovah's Witnesses" to me as > > > well... > > > > "Somewhere in between" sounds like trying to reconcile SOM's > > dichotomies. However pitting the establishment against people isn't > > so pronounced over here, it seems more like the mentioned plebeian > > "howling with the wolves" phenomenon. The bio-fuel issue also > > caused a stir when it was "discovered" that it was burning food, > > again my wry smile again over the politicians' effort to be correct > > - always. > > > > Bodvar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
