Marsha, Does not the perceptual patterning of a valuating aagent presuppose any experience?
Whatever you call it, it has to fit within this biological matrix or it doesn't (as far as I can see) exist. John On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 1:31 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Dec 27, 2009, at 3:35 PM, John Carl wrote: > > > > > But "unpatterened experience" is far worse because its a > >>> philosophical self-contradiction. > >>> > >>> A metaphysics no-no. > >> > >> Marsha: > >> Is it a philosophical self-contradiction in the same way as seeing > orange > >> or blue? If not, than how is it a philosophical self-contradiction? > >> > >> > >> > > It's a contradiction because experience is a patterning. Thus you can't > > have "unpatterned patterning" in a philosophically logical way. Not > unless > > you want to do some explaining of yourself young lady! > > > > > > John, > > Quality is unpatterned experience and patterned experience, so no, > experience is not necessarily > patterned; that can be realized first-hand. Experience often involves > patterns, but sometimes > it does not involve patterns. > > > Marsha > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars... > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
