On Dec 27, 2009, at 3:35 PM, John Carl wrote:

> 
>  But "unpatterened experience" is far worse because its a
>>> philosophical self-contradiction.
>>> 
>>> A metaphysics no-no.
>> 
>> Marsha:
>> Is it a philosophical self-contradiction in the same way as seeing orange
>> or blue?  If not,  than how is it a philosophical self-contradiction?
>> 
>> 
>> 
> It's a contradiction because experience is  a patterning.  Thus you can't
> have "unpatterned patterning" in a philosophically logical way.  Not unless
> you want to do some explaining of yourself young lady!
> 



John,  

Quality is unpatterned experience and patterned experience, so no, experience 
is not necessarily 
patterned; that can be realized first-hand.  Experience often involves 
patterns, but sometimes
it does not involve patterns.      

 
Marsha  





  
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