[Mark] OK, we are not speaking the same language. In my language, creationism was created by the intellect.
[Arlo] "Creationism" was an attempt to turn a social pattern of thought into an intellectual pattern of thought. [Mark] Science is intellect masquerading as high Quality. [Arlo] Science is an intellectual pattern. It does not need to masquerade as what it already is. Are there low Quality intellectual patterns? Sure. Pirsig's central condemnation is that S/O intellectual patterns are of low Quality. [Mark] Why would the intellect place itself above all else? [Arlo] I believe regarding the formulation of the MOQ it was Pirsig would placed intellect at the top of the static hierarchy. [Mark] Oh, I forgot, you claim that science is not a belief, somehow it is real. How did that happen? [Arlo] Science is an intellectual pattern. It is not "faith-based" as is "theism". I have no idea what you mean by "real", but I don't recall making any such claim. Both intellectual patterns (science) and social patterns (theism) are static patterns of value. [Mark] I remember the PC discussion. We can agree to disagree. [Arlo] Of course. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
