Marsha,

I think it is proper to talk of Ultimate Truth rather than the Absolute, but, 
and I 
could be misunderstanding, Ultimate Truth is not separate from conventional 
truths.  Kind of like sq and DQ are interdependent.  

Ron:
Nagarjuna would agree, to speak of a concept, it must be understood in terms of 
related
concepts, a hanging together of ideas..when we use terms like ultimate and 
absolute
we mean the entirety of things, the whole of it. Kant argued if the conception 
of
such a thing is even possible, Nietzsche criticized Hegel for it..Aristotle 
charges Parmenides,
Buddha mocks the idea of it. 

As it applies to both the one and the many, unity and plurality, monism and 
relativism.

But they are criticizing how  that belief is formed, Aristotle makes a point 
similar
to Pirsig and James in that Absolute relativism neglects the good.










On Mar 4, 2010, at 12:20 AM, John Carl wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:18 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
>> I believe Pirsig would agree with W. James and Nagarjuna.
> 
> 
> 
> As would Royce and me, Ron.  Our case for an absolute is also the middle way
> - it's not the only thing there is, but  neither is it non-existent.  And as
> an existant, it pulls that moral compass toward better and better analogy.
> 
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 



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