You've made some good points.
On Mar 11, 2010, at 3:43 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote: > Marsha, why would one want to (compete) ? > > (And to pick up on Dave's own point ... you'd have to agree your > rhetorical point was against him and his style, rather than the > "professional" point of relating James and Rorty to Pirsig, which ... > rather unconvicingly ... you said you didn't actually care about. > These circles can be viscious.) > > I'm not "defending" Dave's style - I get the rough end of it often > enough myself - just crediting his particular objective. > > Take care > Ian > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:18 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> How can one compete with the ample credit that Dave gives himself? >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 11, 2010, at 2:52 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote: >> >>> DMB said >>> >>> "... this question about language and experience, at least roughly, is >>> about whether it's possible to reconcile Rorty and James. And people >>> like them too of course. C'mon admit it. That's interesting." >>> >>> Good. So yes that IS interesting. I though for a while there we were >>> debating the no-brainer whether language (and tone and rhetoric and >>> style of argument) were part of philosophy (or not ?!?!) Phew. >>> >>> I think Matt (and gav and others) are right though ... that there is >>> an important style difference between "professional philosophy" on the >>> one hand, trying to situate these arguments in the existing (US >>> Pragmatist) canon, and those of us amateurs on the other who are >>> simply comfortable with the obvious facts, enough to get with worrying >>> about how best to apply them to real life beyond professional >>> philsophy. >>> >>> I think Dave deserves some credit for the former - even if it sets up >>> a viscious cycle of mutual frustration between the professionals and >>> the amateurs. >>> >>> Regards >>> Ian >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:03 AM, gav <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> i thought language was experience >>>> language extends experience >>>> >>>> 'it is the capacity for imagination to expect, anticipate or extend >>>> experience that produces formations [language/concepts] that *seem* to >>>> govern human life but are actually outgrowths or fictions produced from >>>> life.' >>>> claire colebrook on deleuze >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On Thu, 11/3/10, david buchanan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> From: david buchanan <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: [MD] continental and analytic philosophy >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Received: Thursday, 11 March, 2010, 4:45 PM >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Matt. Despite your reluctance, it was a pretty >>>>> interesting explanation. I'm not trying to draw you into >>>>> some big thing but I'll answer your question. >>>>> >>>>> Matt asked: >>>>> ... how could there be a heated conversation about the >>>>> reality of an experience-language gulf [snip] if no one is >>>>> posing the other side (e.g., there is no gulf)? People >>>>> suit up for arguments when they have somebody to argue >>>>> _against_, right? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> dmb says: >>>>> Well, that's just it. I've not seen anyone who glosses over >>>>> the difference. The debate seems to be about whether or not >>>>> their irreconcilable differences can be overcome. To my >>>>> mind, this question about language and experience, at least >>>>> roughly, is about whether it's possible to reconcile Rorty >>>>> and James. And people like them too of course. >>>>> >>>>> C'mon admit it. 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