Hi Ham
I think that Steve gave a very good answer to your question:

http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/2010-March/046553.html

and said it much better than I would.

Cheers

Horse

On 03/04/2010 05:57, Ham Priday wrote:
Horse, with a query to Bo --


Okay, sorry I mistook Bo's statement for one of yours. I'll let him explain the meaning of his phrasing in this quote of 4/1:

FYI: The SOL does NOT say that the 4th level consists of
subjects and objects, rather it is the SOM (the "objective-
over-subject" approach) without its "M"!!!!

I can understand SOM "without its 'M'", but not the "objective-over-subject" bias attributed to this dichotomy. Is it the SOM (objectivist) view that objects "dominate" subjects?

And, Horse, I believe you did say this to Bo on 4/2:

But your main contention has always been that the Intellectual level of the MoQ is Subject Object Metaphysics i.e. a metaphysical position that posits
Subjects and Objects as the basis of reality.

My question concerns the reference by you and others in this forum to the "metaphysical position" of the subject/object relationship. Specifically, what is metaphysical about it?

I'd still appreciate your slant on why Pirsig chose to posit objective reality (experienced subjectively) as a metaphysical concept.

Thanks, Horse.

--Ham

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