Greetings, Horse --


You quoted Bo as insisting:

FYI: The SOL does NOT say that the 4th level consists of
subjects and objects, rather it is the SOM (the "objective-over
-subject" approach) without its "M"!!!!

Yet, in Lila's Child you are quoted as saying that "in a way Subject/Object Metaphysics could be seen as identical to the intellectual level of the MOQ!"

SOM is a term Pirsig has used to identify the Socratic concept of the world.
Essentially SOM is acknowledging that existence appears to the subject as a relational system of diverse objects. (In other words, common experience.)

Inasmuch as everyone here is using that term as the "inferior" alternative to MOQ, please tell me what qualifies subject/object experience as a "metaphysics". Also, apart from the question of where Intellect fits in the levels hierarchy, what do you think Bodvar meant by defining SOM as "the 'objective-over-subject' approach"?

Frankly, the notion that objective reality is "metaphysical" is more perplexing to me than dividing experience into levels of Quality and calling it a metaphysics.

Thanks for your clarification.

Regards,
Ham


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