Better yet:  Ultimate Truth and relative truth are interdependent.   No 
Absolute 
or Primary Source required.             
 
Marsha 


On Apr 12, 2010, at 1:55 AM, John Carl wrote:

> I do believe Ham, that you and I and Ellul are in accord on this matter.
> As my post concerning the false conflation of truth and reality supports.
> 
> John
> 
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Ham Priday <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> As long as we have eyes that see, and a brain that reasons, we shall only
>> know reality as subject-object existence.  We may speculate, theorize, or
>> logically postulate a greater Reality, but this will never be realized as
>> direct knowledge or factual truth.
>> 
>> --Ham
> 



 
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