Dear Marsha --


Better yet:  Ultimate Truth and relative truth are interdependent.
No Absolute or Primary Source required.

If you believe in Ultimate Truth but can only know relative truth, how do you justify your belief? What unknown form or entity does Ultimate Truth assume? If you are a pantheist or an objectivist, that Truth resides in the universe of being. But if it can never be known, of what value is it to you? Since you deny a primary source or Creator, I can only assume that you believe the universe created itself and that you are a late product of its evolution.


Pardon my interruption.   What posits a "cognitive self" and
"Uncreated Source" other than the "experiential representation"
formed by this "relational space/time system", or mental ignorance?
And it's this mental ignorance that creates an independent,
objective reality and an independent, subjective observer or
individual self.

If this was intended to be a cause-and-effect analysis, you've lost me.

"Ignorance" of any kind creates nothing, Marsha. Perhaps you meant to say "incomplete knowledge" or "illogical reasoning", either of which can lead to false conceptions.

I do not "posit" a cognitive self; I accept it as self-evident, just as I accept the experienced world as relational. Logic is my evidence that nothing comes into existence by its own power, which is why I posit an uncreated Source. You reject the evidence and attribute the appearance of S/O reality to "mental ignorance". If I am mentally ignorant, where do I find the source of knowledge or wisdom that your Ultimate Truth is based on?

Does the concept that the universe is made of Quality satisfy that Ultimate Truth for you?

Just curious, Marsha,
Ham
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