Hello dmb and Bo, [dmb] > > In fact, another related mistake springs to mind. Pirsig refers to > > Quality (DQ) and the "pre-intellectual" reality. You repeatedly take > > this as a reference to social static patterns. Because they evolved > > prior to intellect, you figure, social patterns are "pre- > intellectual". > > What it actually refers to is the cutting edge of experience, the > front > > edge of each moment, the eternal present. In other words, the > > pre-intellectual reality is Dynamic Quality, not social static > quality. > [Mary Replies] Dmb, I can't believe you just said that! You say, since Social patterns are pre-intellectual, Bo must equate them with the pre-intellectual cutting edge of reality, DQ, as though Bo doesn't have the sense to see the difference. Well, why stop there? Biological and Inorganic patterns are "pre-intellectual" too, so I guess you could accuse Bo of equating all 3 with the larger concept of Dynamic Quality pre-intellectual awareness. Come on now. That's a straw-man argument if I've ever heard one and does not further the conversation. I'm enjoying this exchange, but you need to confine your objections to things Bo really said if you want to keep it productive.
> > In both cases, these are misconceptions about the central term in > > Pirsig's work. And so your theory is FUNDAMENTALLY wrong.... [Mary Replies] It's only fundamentally wrong when based upon your accusation above. Since this is something Bo (and the rest of us) have never said, you can expect no argument. We all see this as fundamentally wrong too and just kind of wonder how you managed to stray off into this fundamentally wrong area. Let's keep it real, Mary Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
