Mary and all:
dmb says:
I accused Bo of mistaking DQ for static social level patterns and you saw this
as a "straw man". I responded by pointing out that my accusation was based on a
quote from Bo, which I'd included along with my comments on it. Here's what I'm
talking about...
Bodvar originally said:
In a ZAMM context Socrates represents SOM's independence from the Arete past,
here he is said to represents the intellectual level's independence of its
social origin (all levels have their origin in the former level).
Bodvar responded by defending this same idea three more times:
...About Aretê being the social level in a MOQ retrospect is so obvious that
you have to be hell-bent on NOT admitting it. It was the Homer's time in Greece
"...when the social level weren't yet transcended" as it says in LILA. .., but
it's plain silly to believe that DQ was more prominent at some particular time
in history. And its just as plain that the Aretê represents social values, the
duty, honour, valor, contempt for death that Hector displays is the same as
the islamists suicide "pilots" showed. ... Now, in the MOQ context "intellect"
is the last or highest level, thus what precedes intellect must necessarily
have been the social, but mark you, all level have once been the "cutting edge"
and the formation of a new level was in all cases as dynamic as dynamic comes.
dmb says:
So here you have four different versions of this so-called straw man. May I now
assume that this point is no longer in dispute?
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