Platt & Bo, Now you two have me confused. I understand it to be that the Social Level is made of social-spovs, and the Intellectual (SOM) Level is made up of intellectual-spovs, and the Biological Level was made up of biological-spovs, etc., and that ALL patterns are conceptual.
Wow! What a mess. Marsha On Apr 30, 2010, at 4:18 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Platt, Horse, Group. > > 29 Apr.Platt said to Horse: > >> Your wish is my command. Again, you conflate intellectual patterns of >> value with the intellectual level. The two are separate concepts >> (thoughts, ideas). Intellectual patterns of value is a broad concept >> that includes all sorts of ideas other than SOM that were used to find >> food, detect danger and defeat enemies, most of them having to with >> the activities of various Gods and spirits. So intellectual (thought) >> patterns certainly did exist prior to SOM which wasn't a prominent >> concept until the ancient Greeks came up with the idea. > > Great show Platt, this and your previous posts, I must limit myself and > have been busy with DMB and his "bulldog" Andre, but you made my > day. The MOQ must sooner or later get out of "intellect's" grip i.e. that > of conflating thinking - intelligence - with the 4th. level - but from the > intense "flak" it will probably be later.. > >> As for your final question, SOM didn't create the intellectual level. >> A man named Pirsig did. Before him there was no "intellectual level" >> as such. > > I'll have to study Horse's argument to comment this. The MOQ is a > new reality and it's not easy to sort out the steps toward it. There is the > Phaedrus of ZAMM view and there is the author of ZAMM's view, then > there is the horse-MOQ (horse-latin) view and finally the MOQ's view > that you promote. > > > Bodvar > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
