Hi Mary,
I would ask if both inductive and deductive logic are included? I think they both should be represented in the fourth level. And I might consider whether fourth-level patterns come with their own intrinsic, unquestionable authority? While I think the fourth level is SOM all the way. I hold the level structure lightly. To me the nature of all patterns has had a far greater impact. Marsha On May 30, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Mary wrote: > Hi Marsha, > > I think your definition agrees with mine, but would welcome comments. > > I-SPOV's: > > The set of patterns of value which state that subjects and objects are the > fundamental reality of the world and Quality is at best a property of > subjects or objects and at worst nothing more than an opinion. > > I-SPOV's say it is bad to accept a belief just because an authority figure > (political, religious, or otherwise) tells you so, since the only things > which can be known as fact as those things which can be proven by > observation or experimentation. > > > Mary > > On Behalf Of MarshaV >> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 4:45 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Hi Bo, >> >> I've added the word 'rational' to my definition of the Intellectual- >> spovs. >> >> >> Intellectual Static Patterns of Value: >> >> Reified concepts and the rules for their rational manipulation. >> Intellectual >> patterns create false boundaries, giving the illusion of independence, >> or >> 'thingness'. The fourth level is a formalized subject/object (SOM) >> level >> where the subjective is supposedly stripped from the experience. >> >> >> Marsha >> >> ___ > ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
