Bodvar to Platt: Thanks Platt. Yes, for us this carries the true message, but I'm afraid Steve& Co will interpret the glasses metaphor in the intellectual - SOM - sense of us as subjects "in here" looking out at reality "out there" through metaphysical glasses. While the "cannot avoid metaphysics" opening was meant to say that we cannot avoid EXPERIENCE. The static intellectual experience of a subject "in here" looking out through metaphysical glasses on reality "out there" is the highest static good, but must be transcended to reach the MOQ insight of all experience-levels as still greater "glasses" - glass domes perhaps.
Andre: I will not speak for 'Steve& Co' but simply suggest to you that I have transcended to 'the MOQ insight' and have argued with you, from this perspective for quite some time now. I have told you often that YOUR interpretation of YOUR intellect is fundamentally YOUR interpretation and has nothing to do with Mr. Pirsig's MOQ intellectual level. Mr. Pirsig has shown that YOUR 'highest static good' is based on an illusion, a fallacy, an artificial interpretation. It's never been reality itself. Seems to me that 'I' have moved miles away from this sort of S/O crap and understood Mr. Pirsig's root canal operation he performed on rationality as he set out to do in ZMM and completed in LILA. I get the impression that you totally dismiss this effort. 'I' place a small value on your 'S/O division as intellect' as one out of many different ways of manipulating 'data' given us through direct experience...and certainly do not accord it the status you are obviously giving it. Needles to say that your equation of 'EXPERIENCE' with 'metaphysics' is the biggest bull I have heard in a long time. You are equating DQ with Sq! I will adapt Lord Chesterfield's view on sex with yours on the MOQ (or was it Chesterton?...doesn't matter!): (Your) position is ridiculous, The pleasure momentary And the result abominable. Back to your shoe Bodvar. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
