Hi John, 

I can only wonder at what other kind of offlist conniving dmb uses to 
bully, shame and control the MD.  Head, hand and heart?  Right, 
but  not for dmb.  He's got a swollen head, a shrunken mind 
and no heart.  The MoQ is suppose to be a philosophy of head, 
heart and hand.  Ignore him.   He's small.    

Marsha
 
 
p.s.  Since I do not speak negatively about people offlist, I feel I need 
to forward this to the group.  Sorry John.  
 
 



On Sep 13, 2010, at 12:12 AM, John Carl wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> 
> I ordinarily don't comment much off list, as you know, but dmb sent me this 
> and since he mentioned you by name, I figure I'd get your feedback.  In fact, 
> it was your request for a story which generated the whole thing.
> 
> And don't worry about me taking him (or you for that matter!)  too seriously. 
>  I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do.  
> 
> I did reply that I'd rather cease the off-list sniping.  If he has something 
> to say, say it in public like a man.  That's all.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: david buchanan <[email protected]>
> Date: Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 1:03 PM
> Subject: Unlike Marsha's post, this really is OFF LIST
> To: [email protected]
> 
> 
> I don't mean to be cold, but maybe you ought not use the MD as place for 
> personal confessions. Don't you have friends you can talk to about your 
> personal problems? What did you expect to get by posting such a thing in an 
> internet philosophy forum? And when did I ever pretend to understand you or 
> comprehend you? You seemed be begging for encouragement and consolation and 
> my reply was only half-assed on that score. But it's the begging that's 
> pathetic, not my half-hearted sympathy. If we were friends, you'd be right to 
> feel disappointed. But we're not. You should be glad that nobody used that 
> post to paint you as a white-trash loser, which it practically did all by 
> itself.
> 
> 
> Yea, my sad understanding is funny as hell. Glad my pathetic naivete could 
> give you and Lu a good laugh, something to smile broadly about, something to 
> roll your eyes to and something to literally laugh out loud over.
> 
> 
> Me thinks thou doest protest too much, in fact quite hysterically and 
> redundantly. 
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:32:18 -0700
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [MD] Where I'm at
> > 
> > Thanks for the ah... encouragement(?) dave, don't worry your pretty lil
> > head. Problems always look smaller in the rear-view mirror and fading fast
> > behind. I'm for the road.
> > 
> > Although it's funny as hell watching you try and encapsulate my solutions,
> > obviate my choices and replace them mentally with your own. Do it some
> > more! I can always use a good laugh.
> > 
> > I gotta point this one out to Lu. "go down to the bank with a suit and
> > tie". I'm am really, truly, literally laughing out loud.
> > 
> > And she's smiling broadly and rolling her eyes at your naivete. It's sad
> > how pathetically you understand anything about me, and even sadder that you
> > can't even comprehend me when I tell you.
> > 
> > good for a laugh tho, like I said.
> > 
> > hang in there, lil buddy.
> > 
> > Watch for the signs.
> > 
> > big bad mother-trucker John
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > dmb says:
> > >
> > > Limbo? I believe the term is "under water". If you hold a mortgage (latin
> > > for 'death grip") on a condemned property, then even "under water" is a 
> > > bit
> > > of a euphemism. How about "threshold to hell"? Sorry, don't mean to kick a
> > > guy when he's down but it sounds like you gotta get real handy, handyman. 
> > > I
> > > bet you can do it. Think what a great story it'll make in ten years, how 
> > > you
> > > saved the ranch and won back your gal. This is your chance to be the hero 
> > > of
> > > your own story.
> > > It might be worth looking into the programs Obama has set up that Chase
> > > doesn't want you to know about and if you know any lawyers, etc. Some
> > > literal compliance will be part of the fight to get the red tag removed,
> > > don't let pride tell you otherwise. If it means hauling a moldering bus 
> > > out
> > > of there, just do it. On your mark. Get the contents of your septic tank
> > > straightened out. Set some goat loose on that grass. Go down to the bank 
> > > in
> > > a suit and tie. You can do it. After you've jumped all those hurdles you 
> > > can
> > > dance under a stick. You know, the good kind of limbo, where you gotta be
> > > limber and there's usually icy cocktails involved.
> > >
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