Marsha, John, I hate to be the one defending dmb but offlist traffic is good, when the subject matter is personal, for anyone concerned with positive progress over damaging individuals.

Bad news in private, good news in public is my own working adage, and offlist mail is not unusual for you either Marsha, which is the only reason you were mentioned ?

DMB's style is dmb's style, on or offlist. Like his style or not, he's consistent.
Ian
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On 13 Sep 2010, at 09:43, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:



Hi John,

I can only wonder at what other kind of offlist conniving dmb uses to
bully, shame and control the MD.  Head, hand and heart?  Right,
but  not for dmb.  He's got a swollen head, a shrunken mind
and no heart.  The MoQ is suppose to be a philosophy of head,
heart and hand.  Ignore him.   He's small.

Marsha


p.s. Since I do not speak negatively about people offlist, I feel I need
to forward this to the group.  Sorry John.





On Sep 13, 2010, at 12:12 AM, John Carl wrote:

Hi Marsha,

I ordinarily don't comment much off list, as you know, but dmb sent me this and since he mentioned you by name, I figure I'd get your feedback. In fact, it was your request for a story which generated the whole thing.

And don't worry about me taking him (or you for that matter!) too seriously. I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do.

I did reply that I'd rather cease the off-list sniping. If he has something to say, say it in public like a man. That's all.

John


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: david buchanan <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 1:03 PM
Subject: Unlike Marsha's post, this really is OFF LIST
To: [email protected]


I don't mean to be cold, but maybe you ought not use the MD as place for personal confessions. Don't you have friends you can talk to about your personal problems? What did you expect to get by posting such a thing in an internet philosophy forum? And when did I ever pretend to understand you or comprehend you? You seemed be begging for encouragement and consolation and my reply was only half-assed on that score. But it's the begging that's pathetic, not my half-hearted sympathy. If we were friends, you'd be right to feel disappointed. But we're not. You should be glad that nobody used that post to paint you as a white-trash loser, which it practically did all by itself.


Yea, my sad understanding is funny as hell. Glad my pathetic naivete could give you and Lu a good laugh, something to smile broadly about, something to roll your eyes to and something to literally laugh out loud over.


Me thinks thou doest protest too much, in fact quite hysterically and redundantly.



Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:32:18 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MD] Where I'm at

Thanks for the ah... encouragement(?) dave, don't worry your pretty lil head. Problems always look smaller in the rear-view mirror and fading fast
behind. I'm for the road.

Although it's funny as hell watching you try and encapsulate my solutions, obviate my choices and replace them mentally with your own. Do it some
more! I can always use a good laugh.

I gotta point this one out to Lu. "go down to the bank with a suit and
tie". I'm am really, truly, literally laughing out loud.

And she's smiling broadly and rolling her eyes at your naivete. It's sad how pathetically you understand anything about me, and even sadder that you
can't even comprehend me when I tell you.

good for a laugh tho, like I said.

hang in there, lil buddy.

Watch for the signs.

big bad mother-trucker John




dmb says:

Limbo? I believe the term is "under water". If you hold a mortgage (latin for 'death grip") on a condemned property, then even "under water" is a bit of a euphemism. How about "threshold to hell"? Sorry, don't mean to kick a guy when he's down but it sounds like you gotta get real handy, handyman. I bet you can do it. Think what a great story it'll make in ten years, how you saved the ranch and won back your gal. This is your chance to be the hero of
your own story.
It might be worth looking into the programs Obama has set up that Chase doesn't want you to know about and if you know any lawyers, etc. Some literal compliance will be part of the fight to get the red tag removed, don't let pride tell you otherwise. If it means hauling a moldering bus out of there, just do it. On your mark. Get the contents of your septic tank straightened out. Set some goat loose on that grass. Go down to the bank in a suit and tie. You can do it. After you've jumped all those hurdles you can dance under a stick. You know, the good kind of limbo, where you gotta be
limber and there's usually icy cocktails involved.


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