Magnus,
Let me see if I understand you. Are you saying that you disagree with the
following from Pirsig:?
"It says that what is meant by "human rights" is usually the moral code of
intellect vs.society, the moral right
of intellect to be free of social control. Freedom of speech, freedom of
assembly, of travel, trial by jury, habeas
corpus, government by consent -- these "human rights" are all intellect
vs.society issues. According to the
Metaphysics of Quality, these "human rights" have not just a sentimental
basis, but a rational, metaphysical
basis. They are essential to the evolution of life from a lower level of
life. They are for real." (Lila, 24)
Thanks for clarifying.
Platt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Magnus Berg" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] How far do you go to preserve individual life?
On 2010-09-14 20:56, Platt Holden wrote:
If your stacks show all those things you claim, you might want to explain
how so. I don't see that the MOQ as contradicting itself or being abused
by
anyone's ideas, so those seem to be straw men.
Yeah right. So you've never before tried to raise the individual's right
to freedom above society's right to control it? You're not fooling
anybody. And the term "straw man", what a joke. Every time it is uttered,
it means the one saying it is striking the ostrich pose.
But, as pointed out a number
of times, no one here is obligated to answer anyone's questions. This is
not
a teacher-student arena where failure to respond results in a low grade.
Just connect the dots. When you focus on the individual's right to
freedom, or life, or whatever, you use the intellectual patterns of each
human's brain to claim intellectual supremacy over the social patterns of
the society in which that human is a part. But when you do that, you're
comparing apples and pear trees. (Note! "apples" vs "pear trees" not
"apple trees" vs "pear trees") Do you understand the difference?
You can't use the MoQ to assert that one human's intellectual patterns are
more moral than a society's social patterns, because the society is
composed of *many* humans' intellectual patterns.
Magnus
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