Platt said to dmb:
Excellent use of the Alinsky tactic of demonizing those you disagree with by 
using ridicule in order to avoid serious debate. 



dmb says:

I'm demonizing my opponents? Look in the mirror, Mister. You've the one talking 
about murderous socialism and then you construed my efforts to provide context 
as a form of deception. And now you're characterizing my criticism of your bad 
"logic" as ridicule, demonization, and as an evasion of serious debate.

There is no serious debate to evade. The whole thing is predicated on a 
fiction. 
As I explained in the propaganda thread, your central premise was manufactured 
by a public relations agency on behalf of Republican operatives. The falsity of 
it is a matter of public record now and so the right-wing spin on that New York 
Times editorial is an attempt to resurrect the issue. Even though the editorial 
explicitly said the so-called "death panels" were a fiction used by demagogues, 
you and the right-wing bloggers used that editorial to do exactly that.

This is not demonization. This is a deconstruction of your case. So what if I 
use a little humor to make the point? 


You really don't see how absurd it is to accuse someone of trying to "hide" 
something by putting it back in its original context?  If you want to hide the 
original meaning of somebody's statement, you take it out of its original 
context. Everyone knows that putting a statement in context is exactly how one 
would NOT hide the truth. That's why it's funny just to hear the phrase, "hide 
it with context". Don't you want to correct your statement or something? Do you 
think such an irrational accusation will stand if you paint me as the bad guy 
for saying how illogical it is? I don't.


Ron:
How dare you expect Platt to use "REASON" ...evil academic..

How typical!






> On 15 Sep 2010 at 12:34, david buchanan wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Platt said to dmb:
> > No matter how you or the leftist editorial writer at the Times want to hide 
>it with "context," the fact of government control of life and death decisions 
>stands out like a sore thumb.
> > 
> > 
> > dmb says:
> > The writer and I are hiding the "fact" with context? 
> > 
> > Hilarious.
> > 
> > Sounds like Stephan Colbert doing a parody of a right-winger's "logic".
> > 
> > Hide it with context. That is truly funny.
> 
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