[Marsha to Platt]
Certainly dynamic individuals like Mr. Pirsig are a separate category.  I
agree, I agree, I agree.

[Arlo]
Human individuals are a composition of the four levels of value patterns. They
are not a "separate category", whatever that means. 

[Platt]
The MOQ originated in response to Dynamic qualty by the unique combination of
value patterns named Robert M. Pirsig.

[Arlo]
The MOQ originated out of a shared cultural milieu, involving the specific
historical-social patterns that made the dialogue possible. These include (but
are not limited to) Chris, Kant, the faculty at Montana and Chicago, Poincare,
Einstein, Sidis, etc. They include those who made the storage and transmissions
of encoded ideas possible, the transit structures that allowed Pirsig to travel
from place to place. 

The MOQ originated out this social reality, it would not have been possible
without it. As always, you are falsely seeing "individuals" are "social
activity" as oppositional forces. Instead, when one sees Pirsig as an
"individual acting within a social context" one sees that Pirsig appraisal that
intellectual pattern emerge from social pattern not biology is a better one
than you are offering in response.


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