Hello everyone On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 1:41 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Oct 14, 2010, at 11:12 PM, Dan Glover wrote: > >> Hello everyone >> >> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 4:40 PM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: >>> John, Dan, >>> >>> It seems there are differing aspects of Quality being discussed. >>> >>> The arguement focusing on which types of Quality are best. >>> >>> While re-examining the root, as Dan suggests, can elimenate alot >>> >>> of false dilemma and reinstate what has greater meaning in ones life, >>> >>> we do so from an intellectual perspective, which is what I believe John >>> >>> is driving at, clarity of meaning in our lives. >>> >>> This not only begins with this re-evaluation of the organic experience, but >>> it >>> >>> guides and drives our social and intellectual values as well. >>> >>> Organic quality would not have the same pleasure of experience if it was >>> >>> not shared socially or reflected apon, for greater understanding >>> intellectually >>> >>> which is the true flower of the totality of experience. >>> >>> Would'nt one say that greater understanding has resulted in better organic >>> Quality? >>> >>> better social Quality? >>> >>> Doesent it make our reasons for holding certain organic and social values >>> >>> better by constantly reflecting and re-defining them? >>> >>> concerning the ego climber, who is it that asserts the ego more? >>> >>> the one examing the self and defining it with their values or the one >>> >>> denying it exists? >>> >>> is not denial of self one of the most insidious acts of selfishness? >> >> Dan: >> >> Hi Ron >> >> I don't know for sure, but I would say that the selfless existence >> doesn't mean denying the self so much as it means realizing the self >> doesn't exist in light of the Buddha's teachings. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Dan" > > > > Dan, > > I wonder what you mean by 'realizing in the light of the Buddha's teaching.' > Isn't the Buddha's teachings pointing a finger to the moon, and shouldn't > one go beyond the pointing finger, in other words, realize directly, at least > try? But maybe that's what you are saying.\
Dan: Yes that is what I'm saying. I cannot point to any actual teachings on account of my not-reading when it comes to zen. I sit. That's all. Like I advised John, practice reverence... nothing more to say. I do like pictures though. Thank you, Dan Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
