On Dec 7, 2010, at 3:06 PM, 118 wrote: > Hi Marsha, > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:55 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Dec 7, 2010, at 2:34 PM, 118 wrote: >> >>> Hi Marsha, >>> Can you appreciate the sun on your face without thinking there is sun >>> on your face? I think you can. You find it pleasing in an >>> intellectual way without any subject object. >> >> In a experiential way. I don't need intellectual static patterns of value >> to enjoy the sun on my face. > > [Mark] > OK, then we have a different appreciation for the intellectual level. > I am fine with that. What I am saying is that the intellect is not > only static patterns of value, it is dynamic. I think this is what I > stated earlier, but I now restate it. If your definition of intellect > is the static pattern of value, then I see how you agree with Bo. It > is just another way of looking at it.
Marsha: To me, the fourth level is comprised of intellectual static patterns of value. And of course static pattern events always include a dynamic aspect. >>> If you want to place >>> this in another level, then you are not using your brain for such a >>> thing which seems hard to imagine (literally of course, you are always >>> using your brain in these posts). >> >> What? Are you one of those who reduces all conceptual experiences >> to brain activity? > > [Mark] > No, but the reflective appreciation would seem to be. It would seem > that concepts are a brain thing, but maybe not. I suppose the foot > can have concepts too, and so can a planet. I was trying to stick > within a more defined framework. I do not believe there is any proof that consciousness is solely in the head; while there does seem to be a correlation between consciousness and brain function. Statically/conventionally speaking, that is. I don't really know. Marsha ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
