Hi Mark

So what's the difference between mystical reality and spiritual reality and how does it solve the problem that - as some see it - that in Pirsigs MoQ mystical reality is neither conceptual, nor patterned.

Horse

On 13/12/2010 20:03, 118 wrote:
Hi Platt, Horse,

I solve this problem by equating the mystical reality with the spiritual 
reality.  In this way, MOQ can be bridged to many other philosophies.

Mark

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Horse<[email protected]>  wrote:
Hi Platt

This worries me in that a simple phrase/verb such as "to know" should cause a 
problem in relation to what you have called the 'real' world of mystic reality. It makes 
me think that what you have said has no bearing on what you believe, in the sense that 
mystic reality is devoid of concepts and knowing is the creation of concepts.
Knowledge of, knowledge about or knowledge that etc. X refers to something that 
can be known. The whole point of DQ/Mysticism in the MoQ sense is that it can 
only be experienced and not known.
Or perhaps I've got it wrong. Anyone else agree or disagree?

Horse

On 13/12/2010 17:06, Platt Holden wrote:
Hi Horse,

Like many other things, we have a difference of opinion on what it means "to 
know." So I'll leave it at that.

Regards,
Platt
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