Horse,

Try this:

I haven't seen any argument that refutes that the fundamental nature of sq is 
DQ.   

Do you want to answer the question:  Might you agree that ice is not other than 
water?  


Marsha




On Mar 28, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Horse wrote:

> Hi Marsha
> 
> On 28/03/2011 10:55, MarshaV wrote:
>> Stating that "sq is not other than DQ" does not leave sq out; it includes 
>> both
> 
> It may include both terms but all this statement does is negate "sq is other 
> than DQ" - i.e."it is not the case that SQ is other than DQ" and that is what 
> is being disputed! Merely re-stating your previous statement that "DQ is sq 
> and sq is DQ" using different words is no improvement
> Static patterns are definable - DQ is not definable. Your statement says the 
> opposite. Rather that both are definable or both are not.
> If something is definable then how is it equivalent to the non-definable - or 
> vice-versa?
> 
> Horse
> 
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