The full and exact paragraph: "Moreover, Nagarjuna (1966, p.251) shares Pirsig’s perception that the indeterminate (or Dynamic) is the fundamental nature of the conditioned (or static):"
On Mar 28, 2011, at 2:05 PM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote: > Will check it out. > > Tag-team? nope, and i'm not hunting for squirrels. > Have to download the txtbook again from Finland, my son took it with him. > > I can only agree on your point if it is a correct one. > > 2011/3/28 MarshaV <[email protected]> > >> >> Adrie, >> >> Don't see anything but opinion here. You are entitled to yours, of course. >> But don't tell me that it is an argument disproving my statement. >> >> Check out page 102 of Anthony's Textbook; third paragraph. It is not >> comparing the MoQ with Buddhism, but states clearly "Nagarjuna shares >> Pirsig's perception" that the DQ (the indeterminate) is the fundamental >> nature of static quality (the conditiioned). (Please note the primary >> emphasis is on RMP's perception.) >> >> And boys, I'm not playing tag-team. >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 28, 2011, at 1:36 PM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote: >> >>> Nope, hate the intrusion really Marsha, but Horse is only defining one of >>> the main aspects... >>> So he is correct, Marsha. >>> >>> Once Dynamic quality, becomes static fall-out or static Quality,it can >> never >>> recreate its own parent, the parent creates the child, the child cannot >>> create >>> its parent, only his own child, the progress on the arrow of Quality is >>> time, >>> time makes it so,so one of the aspects of Dynamic Quality, is that it >> cannot >>> go back to the past. >>> >>> A new wave is never a copy of the old one . >>> >>> Quality=>Quality=>Quality >>> Time=>time=> time >>> >>> past<=past<=present=>future=>future >>> >>> >>> 2011/3/28 MarshaV <[email protected]> >>> >>>> >>>> Horse, >>>> >>>> I might add that stating that 'Dynamic Quality' is undefinable is >> defining >>>> it. >>>> >>>> >>>> Marsha >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 28, 2011, at 12:31 PM, MarshaV wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Horse, >>>>> >>>>> Try this: >>>>> >>>>> I haven't seen any argument that refutes that the fundamental nature of >>>> sq is DQ. >>>>> >>>>> Do you want to answer the question: Might you agree that ice is not >>>> other than water? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Marsha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 28, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Horse wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Marsha >>>>>> >>>>>> On 28/03/2011 10:55, MarshaV wrote: >>>>>>> Stating that "sq is not other than DQ" does not leave sq out; it >>>> includes both >>>>>> >>>>>> It may include both terms but all this statement does is negate "sq is >>>> other than DQ" - i.e."it is not the case that SQ is other than DQ" and >> that >>>> is what is being disputed! Merely re-stating your previous statement >> that >>>> "DQ is sq and sq is DQ" using different words is no improvement >>>>>> Static patterns are definable - DQ is not definable. Your statement >> says >>>> the opposite. Rather that both are definable or both are not. >>>>>> If something is definable then how is it equivalent to the >> non-definable >>>> - or vice-versa? >>>>>> >>>>>> Horse >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring >> production >>>> deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." >>>>>> — Frank Zappa >>>>>> >>>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>>> Archives: >>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>> Archives: >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> >>>> >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> parser >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> > > > > -- > parser > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
