John to Andre: Well first off, I should say that I differentiate between "all potential experience" and "all personal experience". The Universe is the former, not the latter.
Andre: This, John, potentially, is a Pandora's Box. I don't know what you mean by 'all potential experience'. Especially when, for you, this is 'the Universe's experience? Potential for whom of what? Isn't experience complete in itself? Isn't 'experience', 'Quality',the 'undifferentiated aesthetic continuum (Northrop), the 'immediate flux of life'(James), the continuing stimulus which our environment puts upon us'(Pirsig) the ineffable, the undefined, the un-conceptualized, the pre-intellectual reality which brings forth notions of 'universe','personal', 'potential', and even the word 'experience' itself? I am unclear as to how you differentiate Quality except when you slice quality up in ways that is confusing, to wit: 'universal' and 'personal'. John: Second, I don't equate DQ and sq, but make the point that the only true differentiation between the terms is a subjective perspective, not a metaphysical absolute. Andre: Good to hear you do not equate the two. As Phaedrus argued: 'People differ about Quality, not because Quality is different, but because people are different in terms of experience'. (ZMM, p 244) John: And we seem to be discussing static and dynamic only on the subject levels (social/intellectual) where we ought to be looking at the terms fundamentally as the division of ALL reality. Andre: I'd like to hear you put forth an intelligent perspective from the inorganic and organic levels John. Lets look at it objectively... . ;-) Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
