Hi Mark,  

I doubt if I'll ever rock.

I concede that all rhetoric is value of the static kind.  Even so, 
I do not understand the hostility towards my statement.  It allows 
for endless rhetorical (static) evaluation and categorization while 
maintaining the MoQ as a monism.  


Marsha 





On Mar 29, 2011, at 12:59 AM, 118 wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> I can appreciate value in your expression of a continuum, if it
> provides meaning for you.  The divide between the static and the
> dynamic is meant to help explain Quality.  Often I interpret the
> dichotomy through some of the Buddhist rhetoric.  Instead of static
> implying temporal or conceptual encapsulation, I use the word static
> as in static electricity.  When I remove my socks from the dryer, they
> tend to cling together.  From this I imagine the clinging which is
> spoken of in Buddhism.  We create impressions which have meaning to
> us, and they cling to us (or visa versa).  Often these creations
> become so dominant that we get lost and bewitched by them.  This is
> not to say that they are unreal, but perhaps misleading, as Mara tends
> to do.  Misleading in the sense that they remove free will and create
> dependency.  It stresses the phenomenal over the numenal and results
> in imbalance.  By his rhetoric, Pirsig describes both as being
> necessary for a conceptual framework, and not rhetorically the same.
> Energy and mass may be the same, but it may not be useful to treat
> them as such.
> 
> If dynamic quality leaves static quality in its wake, I can envision a
> comet streaking through the cosmos.  The head is the burning present,
> and the debris (the tail) is the reminding past.  One leaves the other
> behind; one is a creator, the other is the created.  One can
> appreciate the dynamic as that which creates the static.  By this
> analogy, there does seem to be a difference between the two, not
> necessarily in make-up, but in purpose.  If we distill the essence of
> the dynamic and the static, they could be considered very different as
> the painter is from the painting.  Both can rhetorically depict
> Quality as an interplay, like a conductor bringing forth music, and
> then dancing as it is played, ever advancing together.
> 
> Having said that, it may not be misleading to state that both are the
> same, and appropriate rhetoric can be used to bring forth this vision
> in a metaphysical arena.  If pointing that way provides a clear path,
> and a meaningful perspective, then you rock.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark
> 
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:57 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Check out page 102 of Anthony's Textbook; third paragraph.  It is not
>> comparing the MoQ with Buddhism, but states clearly "Nagarjuna shares
>> Pirsig's perception" that the DQ (the indeterminate) is the fundamental
>> nature of static quality (the conditiioned).  (Please note the primary
>> emphasis is on RMP's perception.)
>> 
>> And boys, I'm not playing tag-team.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 



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