Marsha

Ice and water are both stable inorganic patterns of value - H2O in different states. Both are definable and can be defined in a number of ways along with steam etc.
SQ is defined.
DQ is undefined.
Saying they are the same thing is a mistake.
That SQ is derived from or created by/from DQ is clumsy but not incorrect so if you mean it in that sense then fair enough, but to say that they are equivalent or identical (i.e. sq IS DQ or sq=DQ) makes no sense.

Horse

On 28/03/2011 17:31, MarshaV wrote:
Horse,

Try this:

I haven't seen any argument that refutes that the fundamental nature of sq is 
DQ.

Do you want to answer the question:  Might you agree that ice is not other than 
water?


Marsha



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