Mark to Andre: I am not sure if preserve is the correct term here.
Andre: Actually, Mark I was using Pirsig's own terminology (not that this carries much weight anymore for some on this discuss). He was saying that: 'Static quality patterns are dead when they are exclusive, when they demand blind obedience and suppress Dynamic change.(for example: religious dogma)'Although Dynamic Quality, the Quality of freedom, creates this world in which we live, these patterns of static quality, the quality of order, preserve our world. Neither static nor Dynamic Quality can survive without the other'.(LILA, p 124)( for example: the maintenance workers; they fix things, replace parts, sometimes requiring a complete overhaul, they preserve existing patterns through Dynamic intervention... until something better comes along and the entire pattern is changed. This may involve some, or all the levels). Mark: With his division, Pirsig is able to convey the difference between change, and what the change is acting on. In this way they are very different concepts. It would be like discussing the continents and plate tectonics. Obviously the two are not the same. Andre: Not sure what you're getting at here Mark. Pirsig convey's the difference between static quality and Dynamic Quality. I don't know anything about tectonics but 'continents' are in/organic patterns of value and the theory of tectonics (continental drift?) is an intellectual explanation of their birth, movement and disappearance.(?) Mark: If the intent was to present a static metaphysics in its complete form, he would have called it the Metaphysics of Quality, but he did not. Andre: Duh? Pirsig's MOQ is a static intellectual pattern of value, and as such is provisional. You do know what LILA means? Mark: Certainly Lila can serve as a guide for many, but strict adherence to the words was not the intent of this philosophical musing, in my opinion...This forum provides the platform for further questioning along the same lines as presented. Andre: Agree completely. It is 'a finger pointing to the moon' as the saying goes. I just try to keep 'the moon' in mind and not anything else.
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