Horse,

Of course I know H2O, water and ice are static patterns of value; all this MD 
talk is of static patterns of value.  I had been playing with the idea of using 
water/ice and just tossed it out to see what kind of reaction I would get?  I 
thought it might be helpful as a less abstract metaphor.  


Marsha








On Mar 29, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Horse wrote:

> Marsha
> 
> Ice and water are both stable inorganic patterns of value - H2O in different 
> states. Both are definable and can be defined in a number of ways along with 
> steam etc.
> SQ is defined.
> DQ is undefined.
> Saying they are the same thing is a mistake.
> That SQ is derived from or created by/from DQ is clumsy but not incorrect so 
> if you mean it in that sense then fair enough, but to say that they are 
> equivalent or identical (i.e. sq IS DQ or sq=DQ) makes no sense.
> 
> Horse
> 
> On 28/03/2011 17:31, MarshaV wrote:
>> Horse,
>> 
>> Try this:
>> 
>> I haven't seen any argument that refutes that the fundamental nature of sq 
>> is DQ.
>> 
>> Do you want to answer the question:  Might you agree that ice is not other 
>> than water?
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
> 
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