Ok Andre, I won't take up your points that seem to me "marsha baiting" and most of the rest sounds right to me, so I won't take that up either. But there is one point down at the bottom, that seems to need more clarification, so I'm gonna take up just that.
John: > I see sq as completely dependent upon DQ. > > Andre: > You cannot have the one without the other. > This might or might not be true. Realization of sq depends upon subjective awareness and choice. Heck, realization of anything does so in that sense, sq implies realization. Since realization is all we ever know, DQ beyond our realization is unprovable, unknowable and (obviously) indefinable. So while we know we can't have sq without DQ, we can't be so sure about the nature of DQ and whether it depends on sq. It's unprovable from our stance. That's my perspective. Thanks for yours. John Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
