On Apr 10, 2011, at 1:50 AM, Dan Glover wrote: > Hello everyone > > On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 12:18 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Apr 9, 2011, at 7:35 PM, Dan Glover wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 2:39 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Apr 8, 2011, at 11:29 PM, Dan Glover wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello everyone >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:29 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dan, >>>>>> You seem to me to be implying that since values are consistant in their >>>>>> choices >>>>>> they >>>>>> are incapable of altering those choices. That static patterns can not >>>>>> change and >>>>>> we >>>>>> can not effect change in them. >>>>> >>>>> Dan: >>>>> >>>>> What I think the MOQ says is that static quality patterns cannot >>>>> change by themselves. They change in response to Dynamic Quality. I >>>>> believe RMP brings this up in the discussion about the Zuni brujo. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> >>>>> Dan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Dan, >>>> >>>> I'm curious how you interpret static patterns of value. If you are >>>> sitting on your office >>>> chair in the morning, and reading a book while sitting in a lounge chair >>>> in the evening, >>>> is there a difference in the static pattern of value representing chair, >>>> or is the static >>>> pattern of value some Platonic idea, or something else? >>>> >>>> Thank you for all your explanation. >>> >>> Dan: >>> >>> At the moment of intellectualization, I catagorize the chair according >>> to social patterns that I have built up over my experience with >>> chairs. So to answer your question, yes. >>> >>> Perhaps you could explain how this pertains to the discussion we are having? >>> >> >> >> Marsha: >> >> It is my point that static value is relative and ever-changing, but changes >> within >> a stable, predictable pattern, rather than static value as fixed and >> discrete. > > Dan: > Static quality patterns are determinate. Dynamic Quality is not. What > do you think? Does that work for you? > > Thank you, > > Dan
Marsha: If by determinate (as a verb) you mean identifiable (stable and predictable,) then I do agree because I am quite sure that they are relative and ever-changing. I might add static value is impermanent which also implies change by arising and passing away as mental constructs (conceptualized quality.) ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
