dmb said:
.., Marsha is reading the rejection of the Cartesian conception of self as a
rejection of ANY conception of the self.
Marsha replied:
I did not even use the word rejection. Both self and static patterns of value
are illusions, but they are useful. ...And in the quote it was RMP that used
the word fiction, as does Anthony in the Textbook by using the term 'useful
fictions.'
dmb says:
Nobody said that you used the word rejection. I'm saying that the quote you
used is the rejection of the Cartesian self and that is what you're misreading.
You used the quote as evidence of your assertion that you, me and Robert Pirsig
are fictional.
MarshaV wrote:
Me, you and Pirsig are a fiction.
"This self-appointed little editor of reality is just an impossible fiction
that collapses the moment one examines it. This Cartesian 'Me' is a software
reality, not a hardware reality. This body on the left and this body on the
right are running variations of the same program, the same 'Me,' which doesn't
belong to either of them. The 'Me's' are simply a program format." (LILA)
dmb continues:
Is Robert Pirsig a homunculus that somehow lives behind the author's eyeballs
and serves as a self-appointed editor of reality? If he were, then Robert
Pirsig would be a ridiculous fiction and you'd be right. I'm willing to
entertain the possibility that you are a ridiculous fiction but Robert Pirsig
is a well documented fact and I've seen him with my own eyes too.
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