On Apr 11, 2011, at 4:50 PM, david buchanan wrote: > > dmb said: > .., Marsha is reading the rejection of the Cartesian conception of self as a > rejection of ANY conception of the self. > > > Marsha replied: > I did not even use the word rejection. Both self and static patterns of > value are illusions, but they are useful. ...And in the quote it was RMP > that used the word fiction, as does Anthony in the Textbook by using the term > 'useful fictions.' > > dmb says: > Nobody said that you used the word rejection. I'm saying that the quote you > used is the rejection of the Cartesian self and that is what you're > misreading. You used the quote as evidence of your assertion that you, me and > Robert Pirsig are fictional.
Marsha: I used the word from the RMP quote where he stated the "self-appointed little editor of reality is just an impossible fiction that collapses the moment one examines it." I was talking of you, me and RMP as suggested in the quote. > MarshaV wrote: > Me, you and Pirsig are a fiction. > "This self-appointed little editor of reality is just an impossible fiction > that collapses the moment one examines it. This Cartesian 'Me' is a software > reality, not a hardware reality. This body on the left and this body on the > right are running variations of the same program, the same 'Me,' which > doesn't belong to either of them. The 'Me's' are simply a program format." > (LILA) > > dmb continues: > Is Robert Pirsig a homunculus that somehow lives behind the author's eyeballs > and serves as a self-appointed editor of reality? Marsha: I take the quote to mean he denies being an inherently existing entity. That I call wisdom. ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
