Marsha,

first, the "no poop, popeye" comment made me smile.  Second, you intrigue me
with:


>
> Marsha:
> There is no choice involved.  Understanding dynamic quality is all about
> caring.
>
>

I have to think about this some more, but it seems to me that caring always
involves choice.  First, we tend to care much more about the choices we make
- like if we choose one sports team over the other to root for, then we have
a "caring" interest in the game.

Second, even when we don't admit it, our carings are always products of our
previous choices.

Third and finally, just taking the statement as it reads it's obvious to me
that it takes caring to understand DQ and this is inextricably a choice.

so in conclusion, I disagree.  Choice is always involved.

In everything.


John the choosey
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