That should have been 'condescension' rather than 'condensation', but I'm sure that was obvious.
On Apr 17, 2011, at 1:28 PM, MarshaV wrote: > > Marsha: > Yet again, dmb, conflates caring, with caring about himself. While he > quotes RMP that the 'Cartesian self' is an illusion, he forever struggles to > puff up his status at the expense of someone else. Rather than present > interesting MoQ ideas for discussion, he is prone to dangling quotes, feigned > indignation and whining. Harassment and hyperbole rather than dialogue is > his style. His condescension does not allow for honest debate, as he > disappears at the first sign of a legitimate defense. > > Dmb, you have absolutely nothing I want. Nothing! > > > > > On Apr 17, 2011, at 10:56 AM, david buchanan wrote: > >> >> Dan said to Marsha: >> "Lila" as presented in my quote above doesn't refer to the "Cartesian self." >> RMP has stated that is an illusion. Lila refers to the Dynamic choice which >> drives evolution... not to an individual. I thought that was clear but I >> guess not... >> >> dmb says: >> Right. Marsha is conflating two completely different ideas of the self. The >> MOQ rejects the Cartesian self as a ridiculous fiction and replaces that >> concept of the self with the MOQ's concept of the self as a complex ecology >> of static patterns. The Cartesian self is the problem and the MOQ's self is >> the solution to that problem. But Marsha has confused and conflated these >> two concepts so that she ends up rejecting the MOQ's solution. Then the >> MOQ's solution, not to mention the author of the MOQ, is misconstrued as the >> ridiculous fiction. She can't distinguish between the poison and the >> antidote, between the wreckage and the repair job. >> >> It's a good thing that she is neither a doctor nor a mechanic, otherwise >> somebody would almost certainly get injured, if not killed. >> >> If someone asserted that it's a shame to have dirty hands and offered soap >> as a solution, Marsha would "interpret" that to mean that hands are dirt and >> we ought not have them. Yep, she really knows how to take a problem and make >> it much worse. Major talent there. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
