[Horse]
> we are not in direct contact with what we call
> objective reality
[Craig, previously]
> Generally, we are.
 > I spend much of my time (with notable exceptions) in direct contact with 
 > clothing.

[Horse]
> Disagree - you are in contact with your clothing via your senses.

Again, not generally true.
It is only in special cases (like when my shoes pinch),
 that I sense I am wearing clothing.
In any case, I am in contact with my clothing in virtue of wearing it,
 whether or not I am sensing it at the moment. 

[Horse]
> Your 
senses can be manipulated so that what you feel may be different
> on 
different occasions even though you're in contact with the same clothing.



This statement seems to undermine your position, since it suggests your
senses are not a good indicator of reality.
I guess what puzzles me is that it is so obvious that we are in
direct contact with reality so much of the time & in so many ways,
what is the motivation or advantage of denying it.
Craig
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