Hello everyone On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 8:31 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > [Steve] >> As long as you think that there is an "it" that can be pointed to, you > are referring to Dynamic Quality >Craig: > Yes, & if you adhere to the MoQ, you must refer to DQ.
Dan: But Craig, the Dynamic Quality we are discussing is not "Dynamic Quality." It is like the tao that cannot be named. We are discussing an intellectual quality term that points to "Dynamic Quality." Anything we say is an intellectual static pattern and not Dynamic Quality. > > [Steve] > > you > are referring to Dynamic Quality as an intellectual pattern of value > (or possibly some other sort). >Craig: > Quite wrong. DQ is UNpatterned. > You're just dogmatically repeating Dan's error without considering my answer; > (to wit): Dan: You are quite wrong, Craig, and refuse to see it. Steve is correct. There is no value in him "dogmatically repeating" what I said other than in it being correct. Craig: > On the one side, we have the discussion & on the other side, > we have what is being discussed (e.g., DQ). Dan: No. We have the discussion. Period. What is being discussed (Dynamic Quality) is beyond discussion. Craig: > The discussion is always "intellectual static quality"; what is being > discussed can be any of the 4 levels of PoVs or (per example) DQ. Dan: No. The terms we use may point to any of the four levels or Dynamic Quality but they are not what we are pointing at. Craig: > To declare that both sides must be "intellectual static quality" > is to "mistake the moon for the finger pointing to it". Dan: You seem (deeply) confused about this. In the case of this discussion, all terms are static intellectual quality. You are attempting to say that Dynamic Quality is definable when we talk about it. It is not definable. The moon could be likened (strictly as an analogy, mind you) to Dynamic Quality and our words to the finger pointing towards it. You are mistaking the moon for the finger, or Dynamic Quality for the intellectual term that points to it. Do you see what we are saying now? Dan Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
