Hello everyone On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 4:58 AM, David Harding <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Andre, > >> Thank you David, It seems to me that what Pirsig is getting at is the >> non-doing that gets the results. Remember the example of Poincare? Remember >> also the learning that Herrigel went through as described in his 'Zen in the >> Art of Archery'? ' Do you now understand', the Master asked me one day after >> a particularly good shot, 'what I mean by 'IT shoots,' IT hits'?'...At this >> point archery, considered the unmoved movement, the undanced dance, passes >> over into Zen' (pp 61 and 65 respectively. >> >> The artist doesn't place the brush...IT (DQ) places the brush. At least this >> is my understanding. > >David: > Yes, those are two examples of someone experiencing Dynamic Quality but, from > an MOQ perspective, how did it happen?
Dan: That is what Herrigal had such a difficult time with. Remember how he practiced and practiced his archery while on hiatus from his lessons? And when he returned to the master and shot what he thought was a perfect shot? And how the master responded by immediately dropping him from his teachings? Herrigal was trying to shoot rather than just shooting. To experience Dynamic Quality, just experience. The sense of how it happens is a static quality pattern that occurs later. So to try and talk about it is to make the same mistake Herrigal made in trying to shoot rather than just shooting. >David: > How did the Mathematician and Zen Archer experience Dynamic Quality? Dan: They just experienced. Dynamic Quality is synonymous with experience. There is no separation until we ask: how? Thank you, Dan Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
