Hi Dan, > >> David: >> Therefore, Dan, my question still stands - From an MOQ perspective how did >> both the Mathematician and the Zen Archer experience Dynamic Quality? > > Dan: > And my answer still stands: they just know.
Yes, How? What did they both do that meant they experienced Dynamic Quality? >> David: >> I agree, but this doesn't explain how they experienced Dynamic Quality. >> >> As Ron asks: 'Where does the Dynamic Quality come from if there is nothing >> but static patterns?' > > Dan: > But there isn't "nothing but static patterns." Dynamic Quality comes > as a surprise. It is always new. To ask where it comes from is to ask > a static quality question about that which isn't static quality. I agree but I'm not asking where it comes from, I'm asking how it appears. > Dan: > There is no other answer, though. And yes, those who intellectualize > about "it" are only drawing farther away. They will never know the > answer intellectually. I agree. But this is describing Dynamic Quality itself and not a finger pointing to show how to experience it. One of those you cannot describe, the other, you can. > Dan: > It appears when we least expect it. It appears when "we" desolve into > certain static endeavors that demand our full attention and negate the > patterns of "me". And I know I am not answering "how" it appears. I am > not sure that is a question that can be answered in static quaity > language. It is something felt, like the first blush of love. But this time I think that you are describing how it appears. I agree with this. It appears when we desolve into static endeavors that demand our full attention and negate the patterns of 'me'. That is, when we perfect static quality, it disappears and there is nothing but Dynamic Quality. This is what both the Zen Archer and the Mathematician had in common. They both went over something, again and again and again. They went over things so many times until they had completely 'forgot' they were even doing them and... Dynamic Quality. Static intellectual quality appears for a reason, it appears in situations of low quality. Generally, the lower quality the situation, the louder that 'voice' is. It's through doing someone over and over again to quiet that voice down do we experience Dynamic Quality. That is, in the perfection of static quality, there is nothing but Dynamic Quality. I think this is part of the 'great insight' of Pirsig in Lila. He find that is isn't some new, recent idea, it is the oldest idea known to man. Rta. "The physical order of the universe is also the moral order of the universe. Rta is both. This was exactly what the Metaphysics of Quality was claiming. It was not a new idea. It was the oldest idea known to man. This identification of rta and arete was enormously valuable, Phredrus thought, because it provided a huge historical panorama in which the fundamental conflict between static and Dynamic Quality had been worked out. It answered the question of why arete meant ritual. R-ta also meant ritual. But unlike the Greeks, the Hindus in their many thousands of years of cultural evolution had paid enormous attention to the conflict between ritual and freedom. Their resolution of this conflict in the Buddhist and Vedantist philosophies is one of the profound achievements of the human mind." This is 'how Zen works'. Now, using the strength of a 21st Century Metaphysics, we can point very directly at how to experience Dynamic Quality. It's through the perfection of static quality that Dynamic Quality can be found. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
