Greetings, Dan, David and Andre,

I really don't know anything about Zen Buddhism, but in Buddhism there seem to 
be two ways to attain Buddhahood:   gradual awakening or sudden enlightenment.  
I think somewhere RMP states that his experience was described by a Buddhist as 
one of the 'sudden enlightenment' kind.  Possibly the path to the DQ experience 
might be said to be possible from different directions.  


Marsha 




On Apr 29, 2011, at 4:55 AM, Andre Broersen wrote:

> David to Dan:
> 
> But, perfection of something so that while your doing it, that voice inside 
> your head quietens down, until you have perfected that thing and then, 
> 'pouf'. No more static quality.  That is possible.
> 
> Andre:
> This reminds me of an interview given by one of the best batsman (cricket) in 
> the world. His name is Ponting, an Australian. He has mastered his craft to 
> the extent that he can be truly creative at the moment when it counts: a very 
> hard cricketball coming at you at 200+ kms an hour over a stretch of 22 
> yards. Question posed was:'What are you thinking of at the moment the bowler 
> lets the ball fly?'
> 
> Ponting answered something like:'I don't think, I just play the shot'.
> 
> Seems to me that once you have mastered a particular skill, be it batting, 
> tying your shoelaces, skiing down a slope, driving a car or a particular 
> system of thought the free, creative process has 'free play'....and lead to 
> the improvement/evolution of these sq patterns, and in turn be latched and 
> the process continues on and on and on.
> 


 
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