Greetings David, On Apr 29, 2011, at 6:26 PM, David Harding wrote:
> Hi Marsha, > > It certainly can be achieved from 'different directions'. In the West we're > encouraged simply to be 'free' and 'do something else', if we want to > experience Dynamic Quality. But what if we do that all the time? What if > everyone did what they wanted all the time? Is that Dynamic Quality? It very > quickly becomes chaos and not Dynamic Quality. Marsha: I cannot relate to most of what you've written in the above statement. Having one's own way is certainly not Dynamic Quality. > What the MOQ says is that there is another way of experiencing Dynamic > Quality and that is through the perfection of static quality. If you take > any static activity and you do it again and again and again, until it no > longer 'grates' on your conscience then you can be said to have 'perfected' > that static quality. This is the way of allowing Dynamic Quality and static > quality to be in natural harmony. Freedom and Order - together. Marsha: This may be a way, but I don't think it is the only way. > Zen Buddhism is of the 'Sudden Enlightenment' kind. That is, one can realise > at any time, that DQ is the source of all things. Which is the same as 180 > degrees enlightenment. The realisation that form is not other than emptiness. > > It is with this new insight that one must undertake the process of applying > this insight back to the everyday word of form. (360 degrees enlightenment). Marsha: "Must"? What "must" I do? > On 29/04/2011, at 8:07 PM, MarshaV wrote: > >> >> Greetings, Dan, David and Andre, >> >> I really don't know anything about Zen Buddhism, but in Buddhism there seem >> to be two ways to attain Buddhahood: gradual awakening or sudden >> enlightenment. I think somewhere RMP states that his experience was >> described by a Buddhist as one of the 'sudden enlightenment' kind. Possibly >> the path to the DQ experience might be said to be possible from different >> directions. >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 29, 2011, at 4:55 AM, Andre Broersen wrote: >> >>> David to Dan: >>> >>> But, perfection of something so that while your doing it, that voice inside >>> your head quietens down, until you have perfected that thing and then, >>> 'pouf'. No more static quality. That is possible. >>> >>> Andre: >>> This reminds me of an interview given by one of the best batsman (cricket) >>> in the world. His name is Ponting, an Australian. He has mastered his craft >>> to the extent that he can be truly creative at the moment when it counts: a >>> very hard cricketball coming at you at 200+ kms an hour over a stretch of >>> 22 yards. Question posed was:'What are you thinking of at the moment the >>> bowler lets the ball fly?' >>> >>> Ponting answered something like:'I don't think, I just play the shot'. >>> >>> Seems to me that once you have mastered a particular skill, be it batting, >>> tying your shoelaces, skiing down a slope, driving a car or a particular >>> system of thought the free, creative process has 'free play'....and lead to >>> the improvement/evolution of these sq patterns, and in turn be latched and >>> the process continues on and on and on. >>> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
