Hi Marsha, It certainly can be achieved from 'different directions'. In the West we're encouraged simply to be 'free' and 'do something else', if we want to experience Dynamic Quality. But what if we do that all the time? What if everyone did what they wanted all the time? Is that Dynamic Quality? It very quickly becomes chaos and not Dynamic Quality.
What the MOQ says is that there is another way of experiencing Dynamic Quality and that is through the perfection of static quality. If you take any static activity and you do it again and again and again, until it no longer 'grates' on your conscience then you can be said to have 'perfected' that static quality. This is the way of allowing Dynamic Quality and static quality to be in natural harmony. Freedom and Order - together. Zen Buddhism is of the 'Sudden Enlightenment' kind. That is, one can realise at any time, that DQ is the source of all things. Which is the same as 180 degrees enlightenment. The realisation that form is not other than emptiness. It is with this new insight that one must undertake the process of applying this insight back to the everyday word of form. (360 degrees enlightenment). On 29/04/2011, at 8:07 PM, MarshaV wrote: > > Greetings, Dan, David and Andre, > > I really don't know anything about Zen Buddhism, but in Buddhism there seem > to be two ways to attain Buddhahood: gradual awakening or sudden > enlightenment. I think somewhere RMP states that his experience was > described by a Buddhist as one of the 'sudden enlightenment' kind. Possibly > the path to the DQ experience might be said to be possible from different > directions. > > > Marsha > > > > > On Apr 29, 2011, at 4:55 AM, Andre Broersen wrote: > >> David to Dan: >> >> But, perfection of something so that while your doing it, that voice inside >> your head quietens down, until you have perfected that thing and then, >> 'pouf'. No more static quality. That is possible. >> >> Andre: >> This reminds me of an interview given by one of the best batsman (cricket) >> in the world. His name is Ponting, an Australian. He has mastered his craft >> to the extent that he can be truly creative at the moment when it counts: a >> very hard cricketball coming at you at 200+ kms an hour over a stretch of 22 >> yards. Question posed was:'What are you thinking of at the moment the bowler >> lets the ball fly?' >> >> Ponting answered something like:'I don't think, I just play the shot'. >> >> Seems to me that once you have mastered a particular skill, be it batting, >> tying your shoelaces, skiing down a slope, driving a car or a particular >> system of thought the free, creative process has 'free play'....and lead to >> the improvement/evolution of these sq patterns, and in turn be latched and >> the process continues on and on and on. >> > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
