Mark,
I see reification as a tool too. But as dmb says that James says, "Intellectualism becomes vicious, he said, when concepts are reified, deified and the empirical reality from which they were abstracted in the first place is denigrated as less than real." Marsha On May 15, 2011, at 10:54 AM, MarshaV wrote: > > Mark, > > Okay... > > I don't remember using my statements as a whip to beat you. > These are merely words. You definitely use a eclectic bunch > of words. You can always ignore mine. > > > Marsha > > > On May 15, 2011, at 10:24 AM, 118 wrote: > >> Hi, >> The purpose of MoQ (imo) is to provide awareness of the traps >> presented. If the cage is seen as such, one can move beyond it. >> Reification, as you use it, is a tool. We could consider the computer >> to be a cage, but many do not. The separation you mention can be >> destroyed through MoQ. >> Mark >> >> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:46 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> And in this reification process, it is that cage wall that creates >>> separation between the phenomenon/concept and the self when an image, >>> construct or definition is erected and assigned. imho >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To me this quote represents reification, where the cage of a definition >>>> excludes context, intuition and heart. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> RMP: >>>>> >>>>> "... The definition is a cage... You set limits on what a word is. You >>>>> set limits on what your experience is. And those limits, which you set >>>>> in order that you can manipulate these words, are also a cage for that >>>>> word. It can't go beyond it one way or another." >>>>> >>>>> ('The MOQ at Oxford', Part 4: The Church of Reason) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
