Hi Ron,
Thanks for the below.  I read this after I sent a response to Marsha.
I may be saying the same thing as you.
Cheers,
Mark

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:49 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote:
> Mark said to Marsha:
> Sometimes what a word means to one can be seen by what antonym one
> chooses for it.  Therefore, I challenge you to present an antonym for
> reify or any of its derivatives.  You may find this difficult since an
> antonym of such a thing is a reification in itself (if I get your
> drift about this concept).  Therefore unreify or deriefy or areify are
> nonsense and do not exist.
>
> What you may find, however, is that the antonym of reify is a finger
> pointing right at Dynamic Quality.  Does this help at all with the
> reify concept?
>
> Ron;
> Hello Mark, Marsha.
> It helps to realize that reification is a form of logic trap. Not the 
> formation
> and use of words and language.
> I believe the written word is much more easily suggestive to reification 
> simply
> because it has visual form. But words arent forms, they are instructions of
> meaning.
> Words arent as meaningfull except when they are linked with other words in a
> contextual chain, they all relate to another to compose a greater meaning.
> Reducing the meaning of a word to letters, the most general word is a letter
> the letter "A"  which has several meanings and uses that only may be given
> more precise meaning with the context of other letters and words.
>
> "A" when spoken, is a sound a form?, the spoken sounds connect with
> experience, they connect with meaning and value. When an experience has 
> meaning
> it has value and words are complex arrangements of value to be sure, but here 
> is
> where reification emerges out of it in that it starts with certain 
> intellectual
> assumptions
> mostly out of the over familierality of the written word.
>
> For example:
>
> Ball
>
>
> "Ball" seems like a form at first, the visual of the written word, the
> assumption
> of general meaning as an isolated object. But,, it really loses it's definite
> form apon
>
> a closer examination. Was it meant as an object? or was it a refference to a
> social
> function? to sex? now the appearent visual form has moved to a meaning of an
> action
> or an event and that relates to a personal experience. Can we rightly call 
> this
> reification?
> or is it when we concieve of concepts as objects are we really falling for the
> trap of reification
> at such a level that we fail to realize it?
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